Attending: Jens (chair+mins), Tom, Brian, John H, Sam, Govind, Dan, Winnie, Elena, Bruno, Steve, Matt

Special guest stars, Tom and Bruno from the T1 CEPH team.

1. HEPiX review:

Tom went to HEPiX and presented some CEPH stuff and has joined our meeting to tell us all about it.

* AFS phase out
* Lots of CEPH talks, focusing on use rather than internals/setup; mainly on user-facing interfaces and protocols.

Common pattern of "${InstiituionName}Box" services, eg CERNbox.  typ based on OwnCloud (not NextCloud), in CERN's case
interfacing to EOS.  BNL also has one.

Less on HEP-specific protocols such as xroot, or even GridFTP; more user facing or S3.  Looking into other auth, not
just X.509; but please not username/password!  Also interest in OAuth (ie OAuth2); OSG using JWT (JSON web tokens).
[There's also Macaroons from Indigo datacloud; while they are not using them at the moment, it's more than a random
hack - maybe we should look at stuff like this at some point, or maybe look at the AARC work.]

BNL looked at dCache with CEPH.

FTS support for non-GridFTP is perhaps not as mature as one would like?

Globus developing work on GridFTP on S3 obj store - so WAN access via GridFTP.  Which is cool, but we also already
have GridFTP to CEPH at RAL, and we have GridFTP to dCache which also supports CDMI.

0. No operational issues; no new blog posts.

However, there are still lots of very ancient KeyDocs and other docs that are ancient and old and not updated and
problably should be.  No one is expecting perfect documentation, and everyone should feel free to contribute /edit.
(Which is how KeyDocs can have completeness below 100%)


Jens Jensen: (03/05/2017 10:20:53)
https://www.gridpp.ac.uk/keydocs
Steve Jones: (10:26 AM)
A Sisiphusian task. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus