Attending: Adam, Elena, Gareth, Sam, Rob F, Matt, John H, John B, Jeremy, Govind, Brian, Mark N, Ewan, Steve

Apologies: Wahid

What are the things people took away from the EGI last week (apart from
the cold that was passed around).

Steve - EMI closure plans - need to maintain the processes and find out
what impact it'll have.

Sam - DPM good but some claims need reality check.  dCache talk was mostly
about federated identity management, but this may be worth looking at.
StoRM was slightly worrying that the lead developer had left.  Also if
in the future we rely increasingly on community support, that may not be
a good model for StoRM.  Good talk on FTS3, and the GFAL/Fuse stack seems
promising - worth testing.  Small VO experiences - who "owns" and manages
the data.  Maybe there are better ways of providing resilience - like with
Usenet, perhaps we should reinvent it.  Discussion time in the storage
workshop was too short.

Jeremy - "MeDIA" discussion - this is not "media" as your correspondent
first thought, but
https://indico.cern.ch/getFile.py/access?resId=5&materialId=0&confId=240405
EMI activity - strategy for software - event 22 Apr, focus on technology
and standards.  Members are existing projects.  Involving other communities
is good, having a broad spectrum.

Sam - Need people at sufficiently technical level.  SKA are pragmatic.
HEP also do high level stuff.  How does SKA (plan to) do its data
management?

Brian - the notion that "cloud == S3".  NIKHEF "grid rsync"
New community takeup (cf our "small" VOs), infrastructures slowly becoming
less prescriptive.  Projects adapting source code rather that writing
from scratch.  How much should we "pander" to the new communities?
They still need more than ssh.  Good to have users/researchers giving
talks.  The grid should be used "properly" (ie use WMS).

Jens had to drop out with visitors a'knocking, and we'd run out of time
(not that that usually stops us.)  [The visitor is MarkLogic,
www.marklogic.com - a NoSQL database.]




[10:21:27] Ewan Mac Mahon Pandering to people being jerks when you're trying to help them is an odd approach.
[10:23:32] Ewan Mac Mahon Gridftp would have been a sensible thing to aim for.
[10:23:53] Jens Jensen Try installing gridftp on DMF  
[10:24:07] Ewan Mac Mahon But if people are going to firewall themselves off like internet hermits, they're not going to get good networking.
[10:29:24] John Bland gotta go
[10:30:44] Ewan Mac Mahon If they've got gridftp, can they use FTS3?
[10:32:39] Adam Huffman Bjorn Hagemeier is at fz-juelich. He's involved in the EGI Fedcloud project.