Attending: Alessandra Robert Ewan John H Steve Wahid Sam Gareth Matt Elena Chris David Mark N 0. No blog posts yet for this quarter, and we are halfway through it... (hint) As long as blog posts are a metric, we are not doing very well: so far we have zero. Alessandra will publish something. 1. GridPP @ EGICF - Neasan says we have a stand, and we do have a workshop. We also have a about three submissions. Planning for the workshop is progressing reluctantly, but it seems useful to merge the existing storage middleware sessions with the storage workshop. Also need to bring in some CDMI stuff. Also, we have posters in the "NGI" booth (ie GridPP+NES) 2. Say what happened to that puppet discussion? I see new things about puppet occasionally (from Canadians) Still worth doing, sharing snippets. Also note the upcoming Puppet Camp in London (clashing with GridPP) Need to have a home in the wiki for puppet where we can add stuff. Need to "road test" the DPM modules - Alessandra, Wahid, Sam. The ones on the DPM web site currently don't work. See also Mark S's talk from hepsysman (see link in chat) 3. Yesterday's pre-GDB - did anyone attend? http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=222767 See chat. 4. Today's GDB - is anyone planning to attend http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=197800 5. DPM 1.8.6 - and the security "alert" [10:00:47] Steve Jones Is it vidyo or seethevo? [10:01:21] Wahid Bhimji hi - the winner was seevough / evo indeed [10:01:28] Wahid Bhimji hi jens I can hear you [10:01:38] Wahid Bhimji no noise for me [10:01:52] Wahid Bhimji I am muted though as someone is setting up a room around me [10:05:17] Jens Jensen http://cf2013.egi.eu/call_for_participation/ [10:15:14] Ewan Mac Mahon configlets ? [10:15:22] Gareth Roy It's a set of slides from a HEPSYSMAN I think [10:15:22] Ewan Mac Mahon That's what we're calling them? [10:15:43] Wahid Bhimji a page on the wiki seems a good idea [10:16:06] Wahid Bhimji yes - I though that happened - but I couldn't find them [10:16:28] Christopher Walker Alessandra, can you put the subversion repository details on the GridPP wiki somewhere [10:16:32] Christopher Walker Please. [10:16:53] Gareth Roy http://indico.cern.ch/getFile.py/access?contribId=1&sessionId=0&resId=0&materialId=slides&confId=183204 [10:16:59] Gareth Roy Mark's slides [10:17:03] Ewan Mac Mahon Yes, wiki page pointing to the manchester repo [10:18:08] Ewan Mac Mahon No. [10:18:13] Wahid Bhimji you did adverstise the repo alessandra but (I don't think) anyone uploaded them [10:18:18] Ewan Mac Mahon Upload first, test later. [10:18:38] Ewan Mac Mahon Otherwise nothing ever gets published at all. [10:18:49] Wahid Bhimji puppet modules . But Ewan I think its worth being a bit careful that they are marked unofficial [10:19:56] Ewan Mac Mahon I think it's all unofficial all the time - it's always useful to publish things. [10:20:08] Ewan Mac Mahon Especially just into SVN. [10:21:02] Wahid Bhimji indeed - and its useful for the DPM guys to see too [10:21:27] Ewan Mac Mahon Yup, that too. I'll email Mark and give him a nudge. [10:21:52] Wahid Bhimji at own risk - indeed. Though the DPM "official" stuff should be out-of-the-box when it appears [10:22:47] Christopher Walker Sorry, had to dip out. [10:23:09] Wahid Bhimji I missed it unfortunately [10:24:22] Wahid Bhimji the main thing is that the acls are actually respected - but anyway . [10:24:43] Christopher Walker got to go [10:26:25] Christopher Walker back again [10:26:27] Alessandra Forti while it seems obvious it doesn't yet look like a FS [10:26:41] Alessandra Forti while AFS or it's rework does [10:27:09] Sam Skipsey Sure, but there are standards for making it look like an FS [10:27:15] Wahid Bhimji I have to leave at 10.30 myself btw. we are supposed to talk about dpm 1.8.6 today [10:27:20] Sam Skipsey Which are probably older than most of the reinventions [10:28:14] Wahid Bhimji hello - can we come back to earth rather than moon shot [10:29:20] Jens Jensen http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=197800 [10:30:20] Ewan Mac Mahon I think everyone else has at least claimed to upgrade. [10:31:24] Ewan Mac Mahon There's an 'issue' on the pool nodes in that they're unsupported. We just don't know of a specific vulnerability. [10:31:30] Ewan Mac Mahon Yet. [10:34:35] Ewan Mac Mahon Which is also about the worst thing you could do if you did have root access. [10:37:43] Alessandra Forti 10 GlueSEImplementationVersion: 1.8.6 3 GlueSEImplementationVersion: 1.8.5 1 GlueSEImplementationVersion: unset [10:37:44] Wahid Bhimji we all have different stance to tickets ! But I will can wirte them - I know who they are.... Im sorry I have to go... people gathering around me . Thanks bye. I am interested in cloud stufffs for a future meeting. [10:38:32] Wahid Bhimji sorry bye [10:38:33] Alessandra Forti they are all here [10:39:06] John Hill I'm doing Cambridge this pm. Pool nodes all at 1.8.6 already [10:39:16] Alessandra Forti [10:39:29] Wahid Bhimji so then I'm sure they know and we don't the tickets ... I will follow up later in the week - anyway bye.. thanks [10:44:23] Ewan Mac Mahon I think we need a charging model built in. We can then give people free 'credits' if we choose, but it still gives them the incentive to not waste resources. [10:45:09] Christopher Walker That's accounting in some sense isn't it. [10:45:13] Alessandra Forti bye